Comments on: Piratebay.org raided, three men arrrested

By: daco

daco — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 01:14:09 +0000

AT, don’t you think that it is wrong to rip rented DVDs? Why don’t you get off the wallet and buy the damn things out right?

By: Joel

Joel — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 01:39:36 +0000

” . . . testacles . . .”

I think you are referring to the plural of testis. That would be “testicles.”

Now back to your regular daco-scheduled programming.

By: Atomictumor

Atomictumor — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:50:48 +0000

Daco, you big ladies blouse, was it wrong back when we all did it with VCRs? Is it that because the technology improves, we now have a mighty moral obligation not to make inferior copies of rented stuff?
Balls to that man. If you would stop your luddite, apologist, business uber alles stance for a minute, you’d understand that every year these content companies close the window on things we’ve always been able to do, because the technology hasn’t improved as much for us enjoying them as it has for them monetizing them.
Think I’m wrong? What about when DVRs all come from the cable and satellite companies, and
a) you pay to fast forward through the advertisments (10 cents a pop, or so)
b) you pay to store the recorded stuff (lets say, 5 bucks for 30 days)
c) you’re renting the thing, so its going to be a violation of the TOS to hook your VCR up to it and copy Dora the Explora to watch on another TV. Comcast would be glad to let you rent another DVR and watch it on multiple TV, say, at about 3 bucks an hour?
What about radio? The .govs all about buying back the bandwidth doled out by the FTC right now, so when we’re all using satellite radio, keep in mind that RIAA and what not have sued the hell out of every company that has tried to make any kind of recording device to pull down this audio (no more making mix tapes off the Wednesday Zeppelin fix, or the Rush Limbaugh show, in some cases).
Haven’t this bastards made enough money off you, Daco?

By: Atomictumor

Atomictumor — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:15:44 +0000

Joel, whats funny, is that I wrote testicles first, and for some reason it didn’t look right… I guess I just don’t know testicles.

By: Bosphorus

Bosphorus — Thu, 01 Jun 2006 19:55:58 +0000

All right devil’s advocate here.
Hasn’t it always been the case that video cassettes are copyright protected and therefore illegal to copy? I thought it was exactly the case that technology has improved to the point to make exact duplicates of a dvd, cd, or whatever.

So, I’m curious. How is peer to peer file sharing justified. Is this a case of civil disobedience to an unjust law? What’s the rationale?

By: Atomictumor

Atomictumor — Fri, 02 Jun 2006 00:03:36 +0000

Theres loose justification that its legal by default as a method of delivering legal software (linux distros, licensed games, etc). As far as the copyright debacle goes, I don’t think theres much defending it from a legal standpoint, frankly. That said, I do it personally for the principal of the thing. If theres an artist that needs my money (Whirlwind Heat, for example), then I pay em buy buying records, or going to their concerts.
Call it what you will, but I see the civil disobedience factor playing a part. The fact that its a victimless crime is a part of it. The fact that it pisses Daco and like minded off is kinda fun.

By: Joel

Joel — Fri, 02 Jun 2006 01:08:23 +0000

“. . . for the principal of the thing.”

Uh, that would be “principle.”

By: Atomictumor

Atomictumor — Fri, 02 Jun 2006 02:19:32 +0000

Joel, the wordpress spell check comes out in version 2.1. Patience.

By: melusina

melusina — Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:17:14 +0000

And now the website of the Swedish Police has been hacked!

As to the whole debate, well, technically speaking I don’t have problems with the whole BitTorrent universe and all it entails. While the recording and video industry has done a relatively good job getting things out that you can pay for, they still don’t do well enough. And I strenuously object to having to pay money to download a TV show and only be able to view it on the computer on which I downloaded it from a major network that would be free to watch and record and rewatch over and over again.

You can be strict, protect your assets, but eventually the big industries will lose out because people will get tired of having to pay for every last thing.

By: djuggler

djuggler — Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:25:10 +0000

Yesterday Wired reported Pirate Bay Bloodied But Unbowed “This week The Pirate Bay reappeared on the internet just three days after a police raid shut down the site, and sparked street protests in Sweden and intense international interest. The reborn site — newly relocated to servers in the Netherlands — appeared much as it was before the police action, but included a mocking message for the authorities, and a revamped logo that shows the site’s trademark pirate ship hurling a cannon ball at the Hollywood sign.”

They say they’ve been down longer because one of their people was sick or had been drinking too much.

By: Atomictumor

Atomictumor — Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:57:00 +0000

Yeah, thats not a suprise at all. There isn’t going to be many safe harbors left, tho, I fear. To get into the WTO, evidently, countries have to get with the IP laws, even Russia and China are feeling the burn.