August 4th, 2006 by Atomictumor
I’m having an interesting conversation with an anonymous commentor regarding Mr. Arthur Nelson, who was charged earlier in the year with spousal abuse. I posted a little something about it when I found it in the Oak Ridger, and today our guest has been taking issue on it in our shoutbox.
Now, I’m not doing this to call attention to this conversation, but simply because this conversation is a bit too grand to do in the shoutbox, so, my anonymous friend, I invite you to come over here and continue this in the comments section of this post, if you’d be kind enough.
Our transcripted conversation is as follows:
Guest_4092 : The charges against Arthur Nelson was dismissed/ Seems as if the DA office did not have a victim. Evidently the wife story and the arresing officer story did not line up. I understand that Mr Nelson is living in the home and the family is fine. Where is the apolgy for running this story
AT : The apology is in kiss my ass. Keep on looking, chump. And look at the story again, while you’re at it. Its right here
AT : «link»
AT : Looks to me like his ass was arrested, because his wife called the police. Lets ask around. How many, genuine domestic abuse cases get dismissed because the wife is afraid of testifying?
AT : 5? 10? 1000s? dunno. I stand by the story, and you’re a douche. Hell, he probably is too. Come back again, thanks for posting
AT : Next time, put a name in
GAC : Damn, dude, what’d I miss?
Guest_4092 : The police was not called to the home. Mr Nelson was 48 hrs after the incident.
Guest_4092 : Why did the DA office dismiss the case. A public figure on Domestic Abuse charges
Guest_4092 : AT / Have you meet Mr. Nelson, the story stinks, Are you saying that the OR police are dedicated public servants
GoldenAppleCorp : MushroomCloud?
GoldenAppleCorp : And as far as the DA’s office… why did they do anything they did? Dismissing, plea bargaining, et. al. They weren’t too good at what they did, so I wouldn’t even try to base a case on them.
Guest_4092 : Man, is it more important to be right or to gave a man treated fairly. We are talking about an African American. I am not playing the race card just the facts.
daco : “We are talking about an African American.” What the hell does that have to do with it?
daco : Why even bring up the man’s race. if you don’t want to make an issue of it?
Atomictumor : Ah ha, I was waiting for this to come up…
Atomictumor : Seems to me whats more important is that a man doesn’t beat on his woman. By what you’re saying, are you implying that because he is an african-american, he is more likely to hit his wife? Because thats just going to piss me off.
Atomictumor : Thats racist, and ignorant.
Atomictumor : Whats more, its sexist. But thats not what you’re here to talk about, is it?
Atomictumor : Lets move this to a more appropriate location.
August 4th, 2006 at 1:19 pm
Don’t mean to speak out of turn here AT, I know you want your “anonymous friend” to continue with his thought, but I really need to know what the race of this man has to do with his alleged crime.
The DA should have prosecuted someone in this case. Either the husband for spousal abuse or the wife for fraudulently pressing charges against her husband.
August 4th, 2006 at 1:25 pm
“Either the husband for spousal abuse or the wife for fraudulently pressing charges against her husband.”
I dunno about the latter. In many cases of spouse abuse, the wife is often financially helpless and emotionally conflicted. Many abused women blame themselves for the abuse. I fail to see how prosecuting such a person for fraudulent charges serves anyone’s interests.
I have no sympathy for abusers, though.
August 4th, 2006 at 1:31 pm
Daco, this is wide open, buddy. Everybody’s welcome.
I’m of the thinking that if the wife called 5-0, as the Oak Ridger article explains, then she had a reason. I’m with you, if she didn’t MEAN to call the cops, sounds like she has business with us, or at least the Oak Ridger. I had this guy dismissed as a troll until he talked race, and now I’m thinking he’s either a racist troll, or off his meds.
August 4th, 2006 at 1:48 pm
Don’t get me wrong Joel, I don’t think that a wife should ever be prosecuted just because she is emotionally conflicted. I do however think that is she is just a bitch trying to give her husband the business, by using the police to arrest him and the local paper to embarrass him in print, then yep she needs to be prosecuted.
So yes, if the wife fraudulently pressed charges she is breaking the law.
I have no idea what the truth is in this particular case.
August 4th, 2006 at 3:08 pm
AT i am back. This Nelson guy from all I can see got a bad deal. No one should hit on a woman. But the wife never said she was hit according to the Police Report.
August 4th, 2006 at 3:09 pm
“Nelson’s wife told Carroll her husband pushed her into a closet and hit her on the chin with a closed fist during an argument. Nelson’s wife and daughter, who witnessed the alleged assault, both made written statements to police.”
Beverly Majors published this in the Oak Ridger. Evidently those nasty ole po-leese men lied to Beverly.
August 4th, 2006 at 3:11 pm
Guest, can you prove to me that the wife never said this? The article says pretty cut and dried, and I daresay the Oak Ridger would correct it if a lie. You haven’t sold me on your case, man.
August 4th, 2006 at 3:12 pm
Either Arthur hit his ole lady or he didn’t, but Beverly Majors doesn’t make this stuff up. She looks at the police reports and reports in the Oak Ridger what alegedly happened.
Are you saying that you actually read the police report Guest?
August 4th, 2006 at 3:24 pm
The arrest occured 48 hours after the incident. Beverly never qouted the Police report she stated that a police report was filed. The wife walked into the Police and made the report.
August 4th, 2006 at 3:24 pm
I’m kind of curious what brought this conversation about, seeing as the post we wrote about is from several months ago.
August 4th, 2006 at 3:26 pm
No article was written stating that the charges waas dismissed. The damage to Mr. Nelson’s rep is done. Is that fair
August 4th, 2006 at 3:34 pm
At off the meds/ Officer Carroll is real nervous A lawsuit has been filed. I got strong sources.
August 4th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
You are pretty brutal on Mr. Nelson.( Link) Anybody know the guy. He is well respected in the community. Wife is well respected also.
August 4th, 2006 at 3:40 pm
Let me try this again….“Nelson’s wife told Carroll her husband pushed her into a closet and hit her on the chin with a closed fist during an argument. Nelson’s wife and daughter, who witnessed the alleged assault, both made written statements to police.â€
Where exactly do you think that Majors got the “Nelson’s wife told Carroll her husband pushed her into a closet and hit her on the chin with a closed fist during an argument…” part if not from a police report? And no she didn’t say a police report was filed, she said that both Mom and daughter made written statements.
So what if the report was filed 48 hours after the abuse occured. Doesn’t seem to me that it makes any difference.
You still haven’t answered the question…why did you bring up the man’s skin color?
August 4th, 2006 at 3:42 pm
Okay you said that….he’s well respected and he’s black. Who cares?
August 4th, 2006 at 3:43 pm
You also didn’t answer the question…have you actually see the police report?
August 4th, 2006 at 3:48 pm
Guest (and feel free to pick another name if you wanna), reread the post. I’m pretty brutal on wife beaters. Theres no excuse for it. If this guy is a wife beater, then he is scum. Police report here seems to indicate that wife accused him of beating. Not sure why she’d have done this if he hadn’t done it. I don’t think GAC would call the cops on me for beating on her, unless I did, and if I did, I’d expect scorn from the community.
I don’t see why you’re defending wife beating.
August 4th, 2006 at 4:04 pm
I am not defendinf wife beating but I am hoping the truth of the case gets out. Is it to much to expect that the fact that the charges was dimissed should be reported. I have not read the report and race has nothing to do with this matter but is he the only wife beater ever in Oak Ridge. This article was front page above the fold. He is a Public Official but ever Bubba S was not front page.
August 4th, 2006 at 4:06 pm
Sorry AT this is getting boring. If your “guest” won’t speak I got no one to argue with.
August 4th, 2006 at 4:08 pm
“He is well respected in the community.”
A lot of folks who do ugly things in their private lives were well-respected in their communities. That’s pretty much the story of priest child abuse, isn’t it?
I don’t see why being well-respected in your community excuses bad behavior. Not for Mel Gibson. Not for (allegedly) Arthur Nelson.
August 4th, 2006 at 4:54 pm
You said both are well respected, Guest. Well, one of them is lying. Which one?
August 4th, 2006 at 4:55 pm
Probably the one that broke the law.
August 4th, 2006 at 6:37 pm
Guys, for some reason our spam filter is catching all of Guest’s comments. We’ve been out of the house, but I just ok’ed the comments, so they should show up some time soon.
Guest, we’re not trying to censor you. Stupid filter is just too severe.
August 4th, 2006 at 10:50 pm
For some reason the comments never came up. Sorry, Guest. If you want you can come back tomorrow and we’ll work on getting things running right.
August 5th, 2006 at 6:19 pm
Bullshit. Guest is full of shit and was with his first post. Don’t waste your time by waiting for a bigot to post more horsecrap.
August 5th, 2006 at 6:48 pm
Well, he’s (or she) apparently hasn’t even attempted to, so whatever.