Comments on: Back to real life http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/ Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:17:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.2 By: GoldenAppleCorp http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1364 GoldenAppleCorp Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:21:36 +0000 http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1364 No comments yet? Is this topic getting completely worn out? I think we have the answer. No comments yet? Is this topic getting completely worn out?
I think we have the answer.

]]> By: Atomictumor http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1365 Atomictumor Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:37:57 +0000 http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1365 Dude, I'm sick of it. Dude, I’m sick of it.

]]> By: Mrs. Eaves http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1366 Mrs. Eaves Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:49:14 +0000 http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1366 I imagine that the topic will liven back up when the rest of ORS begin next week. I imagine that the topic will liven back up when the rest of ORS begin next week.

]]> By: Netmom http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1367 Netmom Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:59:20 +0000 http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1367 I imagine the topic will liven up this evening at the school board meeting. It seems that another twist has been thrown in -- the state changed their regulations on the types of vehicles that day cares may use to transport children, so there's likely to be a problem for those kids who go to daycare after school. The school system has never provided transportation to daycare, but because the daycares mostly use 15-passenger vans (which won't be allowed after January 1) they're faced with the problem of buying new vehicles, or quitting transportation servuces altogether. So, there's another group of kids with no way to and from school -- and no parents available to take them or pick them up, or they wouldn't be in daycare to begin with before and after school. I was wondering just what had MomGoose stirred up about this, since I seem to recall that she was one of those adamantly against any tax increase for any reason. Now, I guess I know. I imagine the topic will liven up this evening at the school board meeting.

It seems that another twist has been thrown in — the state changed their regulations on the types of vehicles that day cares may use to transport children, so there’s likely to be a problem for those kids who go to daycare after school.

The school system has never provided transportation to daycare, but because the daycares mostly use 15-passenger vans (which won’t be allowed after January 1) they’re faced with the problem of buying new vehicles, or quitting transportation servuces altogether. So, there’s another group of kids with no way to and from school — and no parents available to take them or pick them up, or they wouldn’t be in daycare to begin with before and after school.

I was wondering just what had MomGoose stirred up about this, since I seem to recall that she was one of those adamantly against any tax increase for any reason. Now, I guess I know.

]]> By: GoldenAppleCorp http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1368 GoldenAppleCorp Mon, 07 Aug 2006 19:03:47 +0000 http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1368 Netmom, what are allowed if vans use is discontinued? Busses? Does it make more sense to "them" that 3 kids ride on a full-sized bus to daycare than a smaller van? Who's making these asinine rules, anyway? Is the school board meeting closed to the public tonight? Would there be any use for parents to show up? Netmom, what are allowed if vans use is discontinued? Busses? Does it make more sense to “them” that 3 kids ride on a full-sized bus to daycare than a smaller van? Who’s making these asinine rules, anyway?
Is the school board meeting closed to the public tonight? Would there be any use for parents to show up?

]]> By: daco http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1377 daco Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:22:05 +0000 http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1377 AT, I admire your passion, but I disagree with your view of the voting dynamic in Oak Ridge. While our council is holding the line on property tax increases, that isn't necessarily a bad thing. The problem with council's view of their "strategic plan," in my humble opinion, is how utterly intractable they appear to be. I am one of those folks that want a damn good, well-explained, thoroughly broadcasted, reason before my property taxes are increased. This bus fiasco, again IMHO, is just the type of issue that should cause city council to consider a property tax increase if need be. This is where I think you miss the mark with your view of the voting dynamic. The folks that you think vote en masse to oppose property tax increases....don't. They are certainly capable of making noise, but you can't get the retired vote in this town off their shuffleboarding asses and to the polls to save your life. What you can do is carry a petition to their door and get them to sign anything that says their tax stability is threatened. Therein lies the threat for council. Look AT, council is made up of people that were elected to office. They, city council, have had a scare or two regarding property tax increases and public noise. They haven't, to this point, had a similar bomb go off regarding our school age youngsters that are forced to walk. Build a bigger bomb. (Metaphorically speaking of course...damn homeland security.) BTW, I thought leg warmers were hot. AT, I admire your passion, but I disagree with your view of the voting dynamic in Oak Ridge. While our council is holding the line on property tax increases, that isn’t necessarily a bad thing. The problem with council’s view of their “strategic plan,” in my humble opinion, is how utterly intractable they appear to be.

I am one of those folks that want a damn good, well-explained, thoroughly broadcasted, reason before my property taxes are increased. This bus fiasco, again IMHO, is just the type of issue that should cause city council to consider a property tax increase if need be.

This is where I think you miss the mark with your view of the voting dynamic. The folks that you think vote en masse to oppose property tax increases….don’t. They are certainly capable of making noise, but you can’t get the retired vote in this town off their shuffleboarding asses and to the polls to save your life. What you can do is carry a petition to their door and get them to sign anything that says their tax stability is threatened. Therein lies the threat for council.

Look AT, council is made up of people that were elected to office. They, city council, have had a scare or two regarding property tax increases and public noise. They haven’t, to this point, had a similar bomb go off regarding our school age youngsters that are forced to walk. Build a bigger bomb. (Metaphorically speaking of course…damn homeland security.)

BTW, I thought leg warmers were hot.

]]> By: Mom Goose http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1382 Mom Goose Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:48:18 +0000 http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1382 The school system has never provided transportation to daycare, NM you might want to double check that. I have seen ORS buses at Haritage,OR Nursery, Sun Shine and the like. They were even transporting Boys and Girls Club. BTW this is Daddy Goose The school system has never provided transportation to daycare,

NM you might want to double check that. I have seen ORS buses at Haritage,OR Nursery, Sun Shine and the like. They were even transporting Boys and Girls Club. BTW this is Daddy Goose

]]> By: Mom Goose http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1383 Mom Goose Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:49:32 +0000 http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1383 I'm sure that its not happening this year but it happened in years past. I’m sure that its not happening this year but it happened in years past.

]]> By: GoldenAppleCorp http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1386 GoldenAppleCorp Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:45:47 +0000 http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1386 Yeah, as a parent, you can put down any address to have your kid schlepped to, as long as it's legit and there's someone there to accept them (last part applies only to elem. school.) I know several parents who have kids going to a daycare or a babysitter after school. However, you're absolutely right about the kids depending on daycare transportation. Daycares will be hard-pressed to make any expensive changes to keep up with state mandates. Either they won't make those changes, it'll take several years to make the changes, or the cost of those changes will be passed on to parents who probably can't afford an increase in daycare costs. It's really just a damn mess all around. Yeah, as a parent, you can put down any address to have your kid schlepped to, as long as it’s legit and there’s someone there to accept them (last part applies only to elem. school.) I know several parents who have kids going to a daycare or a babysitter after school.
However, you’re absolutely right about the kids depending on daycare transportation. Daycares will be hard-pressed to make any expensive changes to keep up with state mandates. Either they won’t make those changes, it’ll take several years to make the changes, or the cost of those changes will be passed on to parents who probably can’t afford an increase in daycare costs.
It’s really just a damn mess all around.

]]> By: Netmom http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1389 Netmom Tue, 08 Aug 2006 00:06:35 +0000 http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1389 They wouldn't use buses for 2 or 3 kids; a regular passenger vehicle is approved, so long as it's less than 10 passenger capacity. More later, but see http://state.tn.us/humanserv/adfam/2007vehfaq.pdf for the regs. They wouldn’t use buses for 2 or 3 kids; a regular passenger vehicle is approved, so long as it’s less than 10 passenger capacity. More later, but see http://state.tn.us/humanserv/adfam/2007vehfaq.pdf for the regs.

]]> By: AT http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1390 AT Tue, 08 Aug 2006 00:27:41 +0000 http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1390 Sounds like horseshit to me. Is the state really saying that a cheesewagon is safer than a big assed commercial E350? I don't think so. I like the fact that they've got a big old prominent "Thomas" certification label on that link, makes me think thats what this is all really about. Sounds like horseshit to me. Is the state really saying that a cheesewagon is safer than a big assed commercial E350?
I don’t think so. I like the fact that they’ve got a big old prominent “Thomas” certification label on that link, makes me think thats what this is all really about.

]]> By: Mom Goose http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1395 Mom Goose Tue, 08 Aug 2006 02:49:25 +0000 http://www.atomictumor.com/2006/08/07/back-to-real-life/#comment-1395 NM: Years prior there was actually a bus "assigned" to go from the Preschool to the Daycares. Oh yea, and Van Hicks. Taxes or not, Why can no one explain how 5 new air conditioned buses were purchased in 2005-2006 and for 2006-2007 there is a deficite that is almost equal to the purchase of these buses (which haul the Football Team & the band to camp)? Meanwhile, our preschoolers sit on buses which heat up to 120* on 95* days and our Kindergarteners are WALKING! Where are our priorities? What makes the difference? What REALLY Happened to the budget? What was paid out that has not been told? Something is not panning out. There is no doubt, SOMEONE is digging for gold. Maybe we will all know the truth before long. Love the way Ms. Splinter & all sat the citizens straight on the budget contraversary. The Truth will set you free. Peace Leave things the way they are and the next prominent certification label will be ORS & LAIDLAW. Some things just make you go HUMMM. NM: Years prior there was actually a bus “assigned” to go from the Preschool to the Daycares. Oh yea, and Van Hicks. Taxes or not, Why can no one explain how 5 new air conditioned buses were purchased in 2005-2006 and for 2006-2007 there is a deficite that is almost equal to the purchase of these buses (which haul the Football Team & the band to camp)? Meanwhile, our preschoolers sit on buses which heat up to 120* on 95* days and our Kindergarteners are WALKING! Where are our priorities? What makes the difference? What REALLY Happened to the budget? What was paid out that has not been told? Something is not panning out. There is no doubt, SOMEONE is digging for gold. Maybe we will all know the truth before long. Love the way Ms. Splinter & all sat the citizens straight on the budget contraversary. The Truth will set you free.
Peace

Leave things the way they are and the next prominent certification label will be ORS & LAIDLAW.
Some things just make you go HUMMM.

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